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January 10th, 2015, 04:26 PM   #11
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That was a fantastic write up tourist, thanks!

Fwiw I killed one of these while tuning the 610
SSB PowerSport > Products > Product List ( finding the right mix for hot starting) lots of cranking in a short period, like run it, shut it down attempt restart, plug in UST make changes, crank again. The dealer honoured the warranty! And uses a lead acid charger.


This is the same size but a whopping 220cca
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Originally Posted by spanner View Post
Or you could make one


This fits in the air box along with the relay and ECU.

Weighs around 370grms

fook yeah! that's nice Spanner!

I did make one once and swore off it forever, but that looks reeeeal nice. Mine was unnecessarily complicated I now can see. How did you solder / fix the cells together? Spot welder? Max points if you went the scary instant-camera-flash capacitor DIY spot welder route
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January 11th, 2015, 05:35 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by spanner View Post
Or you could make one


This fits in the air box along with the relay and ECU.

Weighs around 370grms
That is a smart/cool solution I hate that "box" on the 650 it's a PITA to get to the battery....
Some more info/how to???
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Thanks for the replys everyone. Iv'e gone for a Shorai LFX14L2-BS12 in the end as a mate had a Shorai and had no troubles with it I hope it fits?? Will I need a charger or will regular use just keep it ok? Also I have a optimate charger already will this do or do I need a lithium specific one?
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Opinions vary on whether you need a charger, but at least don't put an LFP battery on a lead-acid charger, that's for sure. Dedicated charger or none.
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Originally Posted by HusaBELGfs570 View Post
That is a smart/cool solution I hate that "box" on the 650 it's a PITA to get to the battery....
My solution to the problem was removing it with the starter.
Free 4 kilograms.
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Originally Posted by Potter View Post
Thanks for the replys everyone. Iv'e gone for a Shorai LFX14L2-BS12 in the end as a mate had a Shorai and had no troubles with it I hope it fits?? Will I need a charger or will regular use just keep it ok? Also I have a optimate charger already will this do or do I need a lithium specific one?
You need a special charger. There is a connection on the side where you are to plug it in.

Take care washing the bike and driving wet as it's not waterproof.
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My solution to the problem was removing it with the starter.
Free 4 kilograms.
How do you do that I mean I know how to remvoe battery/starter but what do you change to the bike to make it work and do the lights still work if you remove battery?
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Well I already ran it for a few rides without the battery, I had it on battery tender to see if it would come back alive (didnt).

Electrics work fine with just taking out the battery on the 04 and making sure the battery wires aren't exposed for sparky fun time.

Needs a capacitor so the headlight won't dim when over 4000rpm, look up battery eliminator on ebay, that is connected where battery used to.
If in need of electricity, lend it from headlight, or so I heard.

Also make sure that your headlight is off when starting the bike, took me half an hour wondering if my bike is broken or did I become a pussyfoot.
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The weight saving vs the convenience... I`ll go the lecky start any day.
If you remove the kickstarter and gear and bits and pieces, the battery box and the lead acid battery, and use the a123 battery there is only a small weight disadvantage, maybe 300grms difference I can`t remember exactly.

The batteries in the photo are joined with copper strips with are soldered directly to the batteries.

I have a Mk 2 version where they are not soldered so that the individual batteries can easily be replaced, if necessary.

I made the second battery just in case the first one fails, as it is unique and I
can not just go out and buy a replacement.

So far the first battery has proven very reliable and have not used the second.

I have a special charger and
top the battery up from time to time, takes about ten minutes.

Being only 4 cells means the bike needs to be in good starting order
as it will understandably not keep cranking it over for ever.

Cheers spanner.
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