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October 14th, 2013, 06:02 AM   #1
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Hi all

Just writing to share my experiences regarding the above product.

Let me start by saying I own a 2002 FE 400. After my SEM ignition failed, I decided to try their CD5006D programmable CDI, supposedly for 'Husaberg All models (1999-2003)'.

I got the CDI and hooked it up. It was kinda hard to get a spark out of it (took 5-6 kicks for first spark) but I was getting alot of kickback which I never had before, so I assumed the CDI had the wrong advance curve programmed.

After many emails I managed to convince them to return it for checking. Sent them my stator as well, as they asked for it. Two weeks later I received a new CDI (blue in colour) which supposedly generated a spark more easily and had a corrected advance. To be honest, spark came 2nd kick, but advance was still off. I turned my stator fully clockwise (retarded) and was still getting kickback and bike was a b*tch to start.

I complained again about this, and they replied that they'd checked the CDI with the 650 engine and it was working fine.

How can they advertise that their CDI is compatible with all models when they've only tested it on a 650??!

They also refuse to have it returned for a refund..

I just wanted to share my bitter experience with this product with all of you, hoping to prevent some ppl from going through the same hassle. I even had my motor opened/resealed twice as they made me doubt the engine timing (which of course was fine).

I'd also like to ask if anyone on here has bought their USB/serial programming interface, and whether I could borrow it to try & correct the advance curve.

What a waste of time & money!
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October 14th, 2013, 07:42 AM   #2
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:/

It's a bit uncomfortable how lawyerly their definition of 'compatible' is :/
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Re: HPI Ignition Module

Hi

All those questions and also other doubts that I have, I've tried to get the answer but with no luck. Even asked a French friend to also do it (because the guy has some difficult in English) and also no luck.

So my fears were right !!

It's a shame because they could easily had a great product just copying the last evolution of the 400/501/650 advance curves, even if you don't have the 2 curves.

So nlan if you want your CDI repaired send me a message and we will solve it.


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October 14th, 2013, 08:49 AM   #4
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The old CDI is tossed away I'm afraid.
Have to find a new one now
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You should not have done that !!!

You always have ebay to search


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October 18th, 2013, 03:44 AM   #6
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Hi all,

I have had 6-7 customers with ignition problems, and all are running now with the HPI CDI.
Some are for over 4 years now.

Indeed sometimes it is a hassle to get an answer from them, but all my problems were solved correctly.

All my CDI units were for the 650 engine, so I can not comment for the 400.

You say you get kick back at startup,
changing the ignition curves will change NOTHING!

ALL CDI units OEM and after-market start analogue at a fixed point.
at about 2000 rpm, the ignition will go in digital mode and will follow the programmed curve.
So changing the curves will not change the analogue starting point

Have you tried to turn the stator/baseplate to the left or to the right?

try removing the sparkplug from the engine, so there is no compression
attach the sparkplug to the frame with a wire or directly to the frame.
have someone to kick the bike and check the firing position.

1 of my customers had ignition problems with the HPI ignition,
he had no resistive spark plug - spark plug cap http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/tech_su...r.asp?mode=nml
So check this out, since the HPI ignition is a digital unit. It is clearly mentioned on the CDI lable
The OEM is a analogue unit which is much less sensitive to interference.

Also, it is strange to expect that they have an actual bike of every single ignition they make.


It is ok to report negative feedback on a product,
but it is not ok to generalise YOUR problem to all of us.

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October 18th, 2013, 11:34 AM   #7
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Hi

I already explained to you my doubts about the HPI in my answer of your PM.

So if you can get answers from them to clear the subject, I think you should post them here.


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@HusaBE

-As I mentioned, I already tried turning the stator all the way clockwise.
-Plug cap is the original OEM resistive one.
-OEM CDI is not analogue, and also requires resistive cap.

"Also, it is strange to expect that they have an actual bike of every single ignition they make."

^^^ Your statement above is ridiculous. Of course they should have tested it on any bike they advertise compatibility with.

I haven't even got into mentioning the injury risks this CDI could pose on me. I'm just being practical:
IF YOU'RE SELLING A PRODUCT THAT'S NOT AS ADVERTISED, YOU SHOULD ACCEPT IT BACK FOR REFUND.
Am I generalising? I don't think so!


PS: It seems quite weird that you have just joined the forum only to answer on this post.
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Also, it is strange to expect that they have an actual bike of every single ignition they make."

^^^ Your statement above is ridiculous. Of course they should have tested it on any bike they advertise compatibility with.
You did not understood me correctly,
Of course they will have tested their product on a bike.
What I was trying to say is that they probable don't stock a bike of every CDI they make.
I assume, they get a bike, make the ignition to work and return the bike...


The reason I joined the forum is because I totally disagree with you.
I am a passive member since long time...

I live not that far from HPI, and if I have a problem with ignitions, no matter on which bike, they are there to help me out. That is why I don't like your post at all, since my experience with them is totally different...
However their communication is not always as it could be, they really are experts in the matter.


please PM me instead of throwing shit at me in public...
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Hi HusaBE

I've already sent you a PM (without an answer) so I would like to leave here some of my doubts, that are simple a reasonable, and they are not throwing anything unpleasant.

This doubts have been sent a long time ago to HPI, without a answer, and that is partially the reason that I started providing repairs for this CDIs.

As you all know this generation of SEM (99-03) had a lot of references, every year, almost every CC, FC and FE, electric start or not, they had different references. But HPI only has one reference for all of the bikes, all of the years.
This only makes me think that they only have one CDI for all, only one advance curve for all.

I don't know about the others but that is not good enough for me !!

They should have at least the last evolution of every CC.

Also they should consider the electric start option (the white wire) that could be use on every model, if you had it you should connected if you don't no problem.

There is also the question of the dual curve (01-03) that it's not vital for me, but they say they can provide it, but actually I just don't know ???

In fact with this CDI they say they can provide a lot of options, but can they ??
Options:
2 curves
Programmable
Powerjet
TPS
Shift-System

I would like to know what they can really provide, maybe they developed something like a TPS for this ignitions, good I have one FCR so I could use it, but is it true ??, for some guy that doesn't even has all the curves for all the CCs ??

Don't take this the wrong way, I would like very much if we had one option of buying a new CDI, and least as good as the original, if not better !!

So if we all could have our doubts cleared, maybe we could start buying CDIs from HPI.


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