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November 7th, 2012, 02:29 AM   #1
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KTM 990 e-starter for my husaberg 650 from 2004

Hi guys!
Im new here, and i was wondering if anyone could help me out... I have a 2004 Husaberg Fe 650 and the electric starter is rubbish and I was wondering if I could fit another starter form a 2007 KTM 990.

Pls help me guys ,
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Re: KTM 990 e-starter for my husaberg 650 from 2004

Go and read the Owners Doc,s on 00 - 08 Bergs see Taffmeisters the upgrade is the CBR 600 Yam 600 starter, upgrade
The battery to CTZ6 equivalent
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Re: KTM 990 e-starter for my husaberg 650 from 2004

the electric starter is rubbish
very rare for it to be the starter motor. usually on an '04, it's the torque limiter or the sprague. what are your symptoms?
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Re: KTM 990 e-starter for my husaberg 650 from 2004

The electric motor simply doesn't start the engine, sometimes it can even move the piston if i don't hold the manual decompressor. If i hook it up to a car battery then it starts rotating but still will not start. The truth is im not so familiar with the bike since i bought it 2 weeks ago. And just last week i broke the kicksart shaft off and thats why im such in pain, cuz the E-start doesnt work either .
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Re: KTM 990 e-starter for my husaberg 650 from 2004

I agree shim the torque limiter up and you will be so much easier to star no more turning over and not firing. But make sure you de comp spring is working first.
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Re: KTM 990 e-starter for my husaberg 650 from 2004

Agree with the others. Its not the starter motor thats at fault.

I have a FS650 same age as yours an it starts easy on the button.
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Re: KTM 990 e-starter for my husaberg 650 from 2004

Ty guys for the help, I will certainly check the torque limiter today, i hope its just that acting up.
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Re: KTM 990 e-starter for my husaberg 650 from 2004

All,
don't want to spoil the parade here, but if the engine will still not turn over when the manual decompressor is used, there's more than a slipping starter clutch to consider... unless of course there's a lot of noise typical of a slipping clutch, or a broken gear!

Tamas, I suggest a thorough reading of the DOC is a good place to start. If your starter just spins when you press the button, pull off the clutch cover and check out the starter drive train. If on the other hand your starter just stalls, or only just manages to turn over the engine (but not fast enough to start it) check your battery performance, the condition of the starter cables (especially the ground cable), the function of the starter solenoid and then consider the starter motor itself. Strip it and check for worn brushes and bearings. If it's worn, it'll be quicker, cheaper and more sensible to upgrade rather than to replace with the OE part.

If there's a big difference in starter performance when you pull the manual decompressor, I strongly recommend you look closely at the condition of the camshaft decompressor.

The e-starting systems on the older Bergs is, by experience, pretty marginal. With a bit of work, they can be made to function well, but everything needs to be working perfectly... and I mean everything from fuelling, to valve clearances, decompressor, battery, and the entire ignition system. Upgrading the starter motor and battery helps. Getting everything else correct is the key to making it work well.

Good luck.

Cheers... Paul
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Re: KTM 990 e-starter for my husaberg 650 from 2004

Ty m8 for the info.
My guess is that the camshaft decompressor is faulty since if i hold the manual one down the motor can turn it over fast. Also I check the starter motor itself and all is okay, nothing is worn. I also checked other parts such as torque limiter and sprague since I had to get the cover off in order to change the kickstarter shaft.
I would like to ask, how can I tell if the camshaft decompressor is faulty? I also checked the connections from the battery to the starter motor and everything is fine, and tried starting it from car battery via thick wires and still the motor could barely turn over the engine.
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Re: KTM 990 e-starter for my husaberg 650 from 2004

Tamas,
pull the cam cover and peer at the little centrifugal cam set into the base circle of the main exhaust cam lobe. Look in the DOC: engine upgrades/auto decompression issue for a very full description of the problem together with excellent pictures, AND how to fix it.

Sort that out (I updated the camshaft, drive sprocket, cam-chain and tensioner whilst I was at it... just convenient to do it all at once), then move on to the starter motor. CBR600 / R6 starter motors are readily available on ebay cheaply. Some mods to the mounting bracket puts this problem to bed once and for all.

If you've still got crank-speed problems (I doubt it... try the jumper cable trick and car battery again as the acid test), I'd look closely at the battery. Mine was relatively new, but still completely shagged when I bought the bike. A combination of a dodgy regulator/rectifyer teamed-up with the previous owner cooking the battery with a less than intelligent battery charger in an increasingly desperate attempt to overcome the charging issues destroyed it after only a few months. On the bench it seemed fine, by which I mean it held onto its charge well and showed a nice healthy voltage once charged... but as soon as you put it under any load it could supply only a fraction of the expected current. Scrap, in other words.

Once you get the thing spinning-over relatively quickly all should be good, but if it still doesn't start, post again. There's a massive amount of experience on this site (most older Husabergs are absolute twats to start at least at one point in their lives); together we should be able to sort you out. Step by step guidance usually wins in the end.

Cheers... Paul
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