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November 1st, 2009, 09:59 PM   #1
 
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Is there a Light bulb upgrade for an '08 FE 650?

Hello,

I was wondering if there is a light bulb upgrade for the stock headlight?

My first night ride was 70 miles out of Yellowstone to Cody in the dark. This thing wasn't much better than a candle.

I made a big mistake a couple nights later after trying to make up for lost time after having to get a new set of tires. I went to do another 100 miles in driving rain and wind only to discover I couldn't see anything as I went up the on ramp.

Foolishly not believing in stopping and going back down I continued down the highway trying to fall in behind a semi which worked briefly.

I came to a point where I was looking straight down at the white line trying to stay on the the road.

Yes, the likelyhood of death or serious pain did run through my mind.

I missed a couple exits because I just couldn't see them. The one I did see ended up being only a rest area, nice luck.

Numerous car drivers stopped in because they couldn't see and you can imagine what they said to me.

In the city the lighting situation is not important because it is so well lit but ventures in to the rural areas will require more than a candle.

Thanks,

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RE: Is there a Light bulb upgrade for an

sounds as if what you could actually do with is one of the trail tech X2 headlights, much better than just a new bulb.

http://trailtech.net/x2.html
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Re: Is there a Light bulb upgrade for an '08 FE 650?

Originally Posted by K2Berg
Hello,

I was wondering if there is a light bulb upgrade for the stock headlight?

My first night ride was 70 miles out of Yellowstone to Cody in the dark. This thing wasn't much better than a candle.

I made a big mistake a couple nights later after trying to make up for lost time after having to get a new set of tires. I went to do another 100 miles in driving rain and wind only to discover I couldn't see anything as I went up the on ramp.

Foolishly not believing in stopping and going back down I continued down the highway trying to fall in behind a semi which worked briefly.

I came to a point where I was looking straight down at the white line trying to stay on the the road.

Yes, the likelyhood of death or serious pain did run through my mind.

I missed a couple exits because I just couldn't see them. The one I did see ended up being only a rest area, nice luck.

Numerous car drivers stopped in because they couldn't see and you can imagine what they said to me.

In the city the lighting situation is not important because it is so well lit but ventures in to the rural areas will require more than a candle.

Thanks,

Kosta
There really is not a simple bulb upgrade for the 2008 and down bikes. Simply installing a bulb with a higher watt rating won't do anything on a bike that doesn't have the required power to push the uprated bulb. Running an aftermarket light like the X2 is a great upgrade, but it requires modifications to the stator/charging system as well.

The stock lights are powered by AC. HID requires DC power, and even a upgraded halogen light will work much better on DC power too.

The stator mod is easy to do, if you can follow directions and solder, or vendors here in the States like TrailTech sell the converted stators ready to install.

Look up member Sparks or maybe he will chime in with more info here.
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I like these. Nice way to get more light without getting a new headlight.

http://www.pmxtec.com/Upgrade4.htm
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Thank you for the education and information.

I was contemplating picking up an X2 but I didn't know I needed to do any modifications.

Hmm?

mudd400, thank you for the feedback on this item. I saw it last year while researching my 'Berg. I didn't have much faith.

Initially my thinking is if I cough up that much I may as well spend another $50 and get a better working headlight in the X2 but now that I have been informed it needs a stator/electrical upgrade I am back to square one.

I guess while I decide I should stock up on synthetic oil so I feel guilty wringing my Swedes neck. After checking the valves and putting on a new rear master the reins will be released, except on the dirt. She needs some body armor to stand up to my dirt education. If you do something wrong you must do it again until you get it right. This does not make for an easy life for the blue and yellow girl... but that is what she's for.

Thanks again guys. I may try to reach Sparks to get more info on the X2 install. Nothings better than getting it from the horses mouth.

Hope your riding... 'cause I am.

Cheers!
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Converting your system over to DC is not that hard. I had sparks do my 04 Kokusan stator, and it now can handle 120 watt's.

The thing that's nice about sparks conversion as opposed to just floating the ground like most conversions, is that his keeps the voltage lower, so that the regulator isn't pushing so much current to ground. Warming the frame is the way sparks put it I believe.

You will need to get a Trail Tech 150W reg/rect that will bolt in place of the original. And just a simple rewiring of the lighting system feed to go directly to the battery.

The best part about setting your lighting system this way is that when the motor stops the lights stay on. You just have to remember to shut the lights off when you stop the bike.

Another benefit is that instead of having 25Watts charging your battery, there is 120 watt's available when the battery is low.

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Thanks for the detailed info. It is very helpful.
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I believe this will work:


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Thank you Husabutt. Have you or anyone you know tried this?

I really am going between the all out rally type big, heavy duty single headlight from Trailtech and something more stock looking. My tendency for bold and over kill so I never have to worry about having significant lighting again is pushing me to get the Trailtech beast of a light. It not being street legal makes me think twice. Spending just under 5 bills on something that may have the suburban cops, whenever I may be unlucky enough to have to venture out there, all over me giving me donation stubs is not good.

The ability to light up a block and express my displeasure with the cager in front of me though is very appealing.

Having these morons pull out right into me is getting old.

Yesterday I finally swung back with an attempted kick of some old Asian's or Mexican's fender but I missed. The jack a@@ pulled out right into me with out looking, then honked. Ok, no light would have helped that is why I am also looking into a high decibel horn instead of the decreped thing on ther now.
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Originally Posted by K2Berg
Thank you Husabutt. Have you or anyone you know tried this?

I really am going between the all out rally type big, heavy duty single headlight from Trailtech and something more stock looking. My tendency for bold and over kill so I never have to worry about having significant lighting again is pushing me to get the Trailtech beast of a light. It not being street legal makes me think twice. Spending just under 5 bills on something that may have the suburban cops, whenever I may be unlucky enough to have to venture out there, all over me giving me donation stubs is not good.

The ability to light up a block and express my displeasure with the cager in front of me though is very appealing.

Having these morons pull out right into me is getting old.

Yesterday I finally swung back with an attempted kick of some old Asian's or Mexican's fender but I missed. The jack a@@ pulled out right into me with out looking, then honked. Ok, no light would have helped that is why I am also looking into a high decibel horn instead of the decreped thing on ther now.
The Baja Design light will be a bit better. I think it has a glass lens and a better reflector set up, so the light pattern is better. It would be a good choice WITH a DC conversion. The pmxtec is only one beam, not a high/low. Iwouldn't consider either of them for any type of real night riding, other than to find your way back to camp at dusk.
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