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October 7th, 2006, 04:24 PM   #11
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I noticed Pascal Picotes Yamaha R-1 sported a additional bottom section radiator,shaped like a "V", at the Parts Canada Superbike series at AMP. Guess we know why!
Indeed!
The YEC radiator has near four times the area of stock.

FYI:
The AMA neither allows the YEC oil cooler.

The good news is I am now an "AMA Pro Racing" rules committee member. As such I have an official vote.

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Originally Posted by nsman
I noticed Pascal Picotes Yamaha R-1 sported a additional bottom section radiator,shaped like a "V", at the Parts Canada Superbike series at AMP. Guess we know why!
Indeed!
The YEC radiator has near four times the area of stock.

FYI:
The AMA neither allows the YEC oil cooler.

The good news is I am now an "AMA Pro Racing" rules committee member. As such I have an official vote.

Dale
That's great news!!

While you are there Perhaps you could fabicrate and patent an AMA race director's rectal cranial impaction removal device to avoid future Mid Ohio debacles!!
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That's great news!!

While you are there Perhaps you could fabicrate and patent an AMA race director's rectal cranial impaction removal device to avoid future Mid Ohio debacles!!
The blown engine in Mid Ohio was my own fault.
Such was the result of pushing a known limit in an effort to gain some much needed horsepower.

The moral:
When faced with adversity trust your instinct. Processing under pressure is very subjective often making for poor judgment.

Road Racing is no more complicated then that of any other discipline. One must simply be prepared. We were not prepared. Our program was a last minute effort put together on a shoestring budget via international phone conversations.

Many that said they would... did not. We simply did the best we could with what we had.

For the record:
Top twenty Superbike @ VIR was pretty good considering we were down some twenty-five horsepower and on a Superstock spec. bike.

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I think DalEO was refering to last weekends dogshow at mid-ohio .The riders said they would not race on a wet track,the AMA said they would not have too.The track advertized the race rain or shine,the AMA said well maybe we will,the riders said NO.and skipped the heats but eventually said yes and started from the back in the final.It was a great superbike race,except that Spies played it safe .Even local Halifax boy Danny Fahie got a TV interview as he was(now pastence) Roger Lee Haydens team manager....Danny stays wirh Kawasaki for next season but RLH is on a Suzuki....
ANYWAY Daleo was hoping you could help the AMA from repeating their last weekends performance....I think...
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DaleEO,
You should find a copy of Dirt Rider from two months ago--they tested cylinder head temps vs. coolant temps at the radiator for most all the major mc antifreezes, including both the Evans and the EI. They found exactly what Dale L has said here. Water w/ Water Wetter was the best at HEAT TRANSFER. The Polys and the Evans showed cooler (25 degrees) temps at the radiators at the expense of higher head temps. Interesting read.
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Originally Posted by nsman
I think DalEO was refering to last weekends dogshow at mid-ohio .The riders said they would not race on a wet track,the AMA said they would not have too.The track advertized the race rain or shine,the AMA said well maybe we will,the riders said NO.and skipped the heats but eventually said yes and started from the back in the final.It was a great superbike race,except that Spies played it safe .Even local Halifax boy Danny Fahie got a TV interview as he was(now pastence) Roger Lee Haydens team manager....Danny stays wirh Kawasaki for next season but RLH is on a Suzuki....
ANYWAY Daleo was hoping you could help the AMA from repeating their last weekends performance....I think...
OH!
All that rambling must have come from subconscious pent up frustration regarding my own program. Let me tell you, it was a rough couple of months.

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Wouldn't riding faster improve air flow and therefore cool the engine?
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We will have to assume that the pilots are riding as hard and fast as there skill and equipment will allow.Also usually more top speed requires more horsepower,since more power comes from burning fuel which is basically nothing more than converting fuel into heat energy it becomes a moot point.More speed =more power=more heat...
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Originally Posted by nsman
I think DalEO was refering to last weekends dogshow at mid-ohio .The riders said they would not race on a wet track,the AMA said they would not have too.The track advertized the race rain or shine,the AMA said well maybe we will,the riders said NO.and skipped the heats but eventually said yes and started from the back in the final.It was a great superbike race,except that Spies played it safe .Even local Halifax boy Danny Fahie got a TV interview as he was(now pastence) Roger Lee Haydens team manager....Danny stays wirh Kawasaki for next season but RLH is on a Suzuki....
ANYWAY Daleo was hoping you could help the AMA from repeating their last weekends performance....I think...
You thought correctly nsman!! Although I am now a charter life member in the AMA, I have my problems with them. In my opinion the AMA should be looking out more for the riders safety in many instances. Remember a few years ago and all the BS with the Air Fences??

And, remember the supercross race I believe that was in Las Vegas when most of the track lighting went out? A lot of the top riders had to boycott that race too, but, the privateers couldn't afford to.

The AMA reminds me of USAC back in the late 70's when they almost killed indy car racing b/c of their rule changes etc... The only thing that saved indy car racing was the formation of CART. Wherein the owners got together made their own organazation and they set the rules. The only place that remained that USAC had anything to do with was indy itself. I could go on for pages about USAC'S screw up's as I was, heavy influence on was, a big fan of indy car racing until Tony George graced us with his BS. Alas...... I digress............

So, for clarification, it makes me happy that Dale is on the rules comittee as he is someone who has made his living dealing with these org's and the entrenched mind set's and self serving players on the rule boards.
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Originally Posted by LINEAWEAVER

True as can be! My prefered alternative is water wetter using a 28 PSI radiator cap.

How/where do I source a 28psi radiator cap? My cap isn't holding pressure, so I need a new one anyway. Thanks!
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